Posts by The freewheeling

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I have made my own website

by The freewheeling in

i have for some time been writing critical articles about different topics related to jehovah's witnesses on a blog.

but now i have made my own website of all that material.

the website is made in my own language, swedish.

I have for some time been writing critical articles about different topics related to Jehovah's Witnesses on a blog. But now I have made my own website of all that material. The website is made in my own language, Swedish. The site name is translated: The truth about the truth. In Swedish the first letter of each word appropriate forms the word SOS, "Sanningen Om Sanningen".

The website is quite simple to begin with, and currently contains 25 articles in 14 subjects.

I was hoping that I kunnde get some general advice on how I should go on with this project.

...and do you know if someone who reads Swedish so please mention it.

The address is www.sanningenomsanningen.se

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Introduction from another JWR Refugee

by 2badsosad in

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friends

yet another jwr refugee.

been active over there for a while now.

was quiet for the last couple months but just starting to 'reactive' myself again.

The freewheeling

Just a detail. 4th generation witness? You must mean 2nd, don't forget the overlapping. 😉

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I COLLECT QUOTES. . . Here are some of my favorites

by Terry in

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friends

please post your favorites too.

my favorite quotations:.

you cannot change what you refuse to confront.. sometimes good things fall apart so better things can fall together.. don’t think of cost.

The freewheeling

The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, but wiser people so full of doubts. - Bertrand Russell

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THE SHADOW OF 75 still hangs over us all . . .

by Terry in

few of your are old enough to have been there, i suspect.

i had been in prison two years as a jw conscientious objector when the exciting news about 1975 spread like wildfire.. .

i was paroled from prison in 1969 and immediately began pioneering.

The freewheeling

I'll remember 1975, even thou I was a child. The reason was because that was the only period in my childhood that we had a new car. I was so proud until my father sold it a few month later. But it was many years later that I recognise the reason that we suddenly had a new car, a car we didn't really afford. My father was convinced the end would come 1975 and that he should spend his last money, and more, before that. At least ones in the old world he could say that he was driving a new car. Sad but true... And I know more examples like him, he was not alone.

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THE SHADOW OF 75 still hangs over us all . . .

by Terry in

few of your are old enough to have been there, i suspect.

i had been in prison two years as a jw conscientious objector when the exciting news about 1975 spread like wildfire.. .

i was paroled from prison in 1969 and immediately began pioneering.

The freewheeling

Double post...

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THE SHADOW OF 75 still hangs over us all . . .

by Terry in

few of your are old enough to have been there, i suspect.

i had been in prison two years as a jw conscientious objector when the exciting news about 1975 spread like wildfire.. .

i was paroled from prison in 1969 and immediately began pioneering.

The freewheeling

The reason most JWs "swallowed the whole thing" was because the governing body manage to revive and boost the GENERATION HOW WILL NOT DIE. Just a short while after 1975 most of the disappointed JWs had jumped on this "Generation train" instead. That was a better train for the governing body because it was a little bit slower and gave them more time. And when that train also crashed in 1995 the governing body had done their job and imprinted that 1975 was not their fault but individuals false expectations. After that, after a wile, they ended up on the "overlapped train", now rolling on, although it is squeaking and cracking alarmingly here and there, also ready to crash anytime...

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A WRITER (me) looks at the "character GOD" from the standpoint of bad writing

by Terry in

i pay attention to what other writers write about writing.

writers always have limits--even writers of fiction.. do you choose to live in a world where pigs fly and deuces are wild?

that would be an imaginary world.. do you choose to live in a world where god rules?

The freewheeling

I agree on this. The Bible is full of problems, it is illogical and contains factual errors. When Jehovah's Witnesses try to solve this problems the explanation is usually worse than the problem itself. However, they have an "answer", and that's the most important for them to say.

And another thing. If God is the author of the Bible, and that he's in charge of every word, why in heaven and earth would he complicate the whole thing so much? Why offer all these errors and explicitly? Why has he not only written an simple book all could understand, that not could be misunderstood. If he really loved the humanity so much why not just write simple and straightforward, no bla bla, no problems or error.

If I were to write a letter to my children that contained information and facts about survival and how to live a happy life, it would be horrible if I would hid the message in a lot of errors and nonsense, so that they had to look for, seek for, sift, and interpret the important message. Or that they would have to find someone else to explained the letter to them, with the risk that they got different explanations depending on whom they asked, and that all claimed with certainty that they were right, and even fought over who had the right understanding.

That's how to write a drama, not facts and information. That wold be evil, not love.

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Notable changes of the JWs org, in the last five years or so

by glenster in

i've been updating the links at my web site and i'm working on the gtjbrooklyn pages now.

what would you say are the several biggest changesin the jws organization/rules in the last five years or so?

The freewheeling

I think the undoubtedly biggest change was when the governing body appointed them selves as the faithful slave. Maybe the biggest change in fiftie years.

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Peace and security

by The freewheeling in

i wold love to see all the worlds leader proclaim "peace and security" soon, loud and clear.

that wold make all jws go totaly nuts.

they would all run around and yell "now it's coming, now it's coming!".

The freewheeling

I wold love to see all the worlds leader proclaim "Peace and security" soon, loud and clear. That wold make all JWs go totaly nuts. They would all run around and yell "now it's coming, NOW IT'S COMING!". But of course nothing more will happened. No "sudden destruction is to be instantly on them" will heaped!. I think this wold be the best thing to happened now, after a year or two many many will leave the organisation in disappointment, they will wake up. What a blessing a such announcement would be...

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The Governing Body and "Josephs generation"

by The freewheeling in

hi, i m new here and not so good in english, but ive give it a try and hope you understand.. .

the whole idea of the overlapped generation is not only illogical, there are also serious errors in reasoning and how to interpret the scripture.. .

the only "scriptural argument" that the governing body has managed to bring in this matter is exodus 1: 6 where they say that a "generation" can be stretched to cover a longer period than usually meant by a "generation".

The freewheeling

Hi, I´m new here and not so good in English, but I’ve give it a try and hope you understand.

The whole idea of the overlapped generation is not only illogical, there are also serious errors in reasoning and how to interpret the scripture.

The only "scriptural argument" that the Governing Body has managed to bring in this matter is Exodus 1: 6 where they say that a "generation" can be stretched to cover a longer period than usually meant by a "generation". But, as said, here are serious problems.

When David Splane interprets this scripture he says that "that generation" is the same period as Joseph's lifetime, and all people during this time shall be compared with Joseph's lifetime. Splane states that if someone lived, if only for 10 minutes, at the same time as Joseph, he belongs to "Joseph's generation," and this is the great error made because the scripture does not speak of "Joseph's generation," as if it was his.

It is said: "Eventually Joseph died, and overpriced all his brothers and all that generation." What was included in "that generation"? Shortly before, in verse 5, it states: "And all of Those Who were born to Jacob were 70 people. [...]" So the "generation" spoken of in verse 6 is not only about Joseph, but also his 11 brothers, and 58 other people, the whole Jacob's descendants, in all 70 persons. So you cannot do the thought experiment that David Splane and the Governing Body are doing here and talk about "Joseph's generation", one cannot "steal" the generation from Jacob and make it Josephs, and only have him as reference. The generation started with Jacob and included at least 70 persons who mostly lived during the same time and experienced the same things, not just one person who you can compare whoever you want with and anytime.

Siblings can be said to belong to a "generation" because they have the same father, One can then say that the father started a generation, and when siblings die out, that generation also dies. That is what clearly mentioned in these verses as I see it.

And the most important: there is no "overlapping" mention or hinted here.